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Saturday, December 18, 2010

Ahlul Bayt (pbut) according to Ahlu Sunnah

Please see the following hadiths, especially the second one. You may be enlightened.
Before you enlighten others, bring yourself up to date. Your second hadith has just been discussed to saturation. As for the first, it was brought up by one of your friends two years ago on soc.religion.islam and I've appended below the reply I posted at the time. As for your painful ignorance of the Sira of the Four Rightly-Guided Caliphs and why we were commanded to follow them, I believe I already advised you in private correspondence to see their biographies at http://sunnah.org/history/Default.htm.
and also: Re: Muawiyah and Abusing Imam Ali (AS)
NN wrote:

It is the well-known fact in the history that Muawiyah fought Imam Ali
It is also a well-known fact also that `Ali's son, al-Husayn -- Allah be well-pleased with both of them -- accepted reconciliation with Mu`awiya and gave him his pledge (bay`a) as narrated by al-Bukhari in his Sahih.
The rightly-guided caliph, `Umar ibn `Abd al-`Aziz said: "Those from whose blood Allah has kept our hands exempt, we shall not soil with it our tongues."
The Prophet said : "None of you should come to me with anything (negative) about any of my Companions for I do not want to go out to you except with a clear heart."
Narrated by Abu Dawud, al-Tirmidhi, and Ahmad. This is one of the hadiths that those who mumble about the Fitna hate to hear. I heard from my shaykh the following rule: When lions fight, street dogs keep quiet.

Sahih Muslim: Narrated Sa'd Ibn Abi Waqqas:
Muawiyah, the son of Abu Sufyan, give order to Sa'd, and told him: "What prevents you that you are refraining from cursing Abu Turab (nickname of Ali)?" Sa'd replied: "Don't you remember that the Prophet said three things about (the virtue of) Ali? So I will never curse Ali."
Your "Sunni references" are always half-true because you never mention the Sunni understanding for them.
Imam al-Nawawi said: "The ulamas said: Any hadith that appear to refer to intra-Sahaba enmity is interpreted figuratively. In this hadith there is nothing that states that Mu`awiya actually ordered Sa`d to curse `Ali, but he only asked him for the reason why he refrained from cursing him: was it Godwariness? in which case, well done; or fear? etc. It may be that Sa`d was observed among a group that cursed `Ali, but he himself abstained from it although unable to reprimand them, then they were subsequently reprimanded, and Mu`awiya asked him this question. Another possible interpretation is: What prevented you from proving `Ali wrong in his opinion and ijtihad, and tell people the rightness and correctness of our position and ijtihad?"
Below is more references in Sahih Muslim about Sunnah cursing Imam Ali (AS), to prove that people were urged/forced to curse Ali in public, otherwise they would face a costly sentence. It is narrated on the authority of Abu Hazim that: The Governor of Medina who was one of the members of the house of Marwan called Sahl Ibn Sa'd, and ordered him to curse Ali. But Sahl refused to do so. The governor said: "If you don't want to curse Ali, just say God curse Abu Turab (the nickname of Ali)." Sahl said: "Ali did not like any name for himself better than Abu Turab, and Ali used to become very happy when somebody would call him Abu Turab."
Sunni reference: Sahih Muslim, Chapter of Virtues of Companions, Section
The one who gave that order is not a Companion of the Prophet nor what you call "Sunnah cursing Imam Ali" but a member of a fitna group about whom Abu Hurayra said: "By the One in Whose hand is my soul, there will soon come a time upon people when the flock of sheep will be dearer to its owner than all the house of Marwan." Imam Malik narrates it in al-Muwatta'. There are several other statements by Abu Hurayra -- Allah be well-pleased with him -- to that effect....

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